The MCU is full of both street-level and more powerful, Earth- and galaxy-defending superheroes. For Infinity War, we'll need a lot of the latter ones... but what about the Netflix heroes? Ever since 2015, when Daredevil Season 1 was released, people have been clamoring for The Defenders to fight alongside The Avengers in the third installment of the franchise.
There are times when things seem to be lining up for that to happen and others where it looks like the street-level heroes will have to remain in Hell's Kitchen. However, despite several explanations for why this was happening, none had been as insightful as Kevin Feige's most recent comments regarding the matter.
During a press junket for Doctor Strange, Collider asked the producer about whether or not he saw the Netflix and big screen MCU merging any time soon. Here's what he had to say:
"I think it’s extremely impressive what Netflix has done and it will be the same answer I always give, which is. It all depends on timing. It all depends on how to do it because I don’t think what anybody wants to do is have such important characters show up for one second. Black Panther and Spider-Man to me are the high bar in 'Civil War' of how you can bring in new characters into something. Vision and Ultron, Wanda and Pietro in '[Age of] Ultron'. And it takes a lot of screentime, and it takes a lot of work. 'Infinity War' has a lot of people in it already. So it just depends on how we could figure it out."
I completely understand where Kevin Feige is coming from. With that said, If you're curious to know about whether or not the TV and movie characters should meet soon, possibly in the superhero fest that Infinity War will be, we have to consider a few things.
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What Are The Average Filming Schedules For MCU Movies And Netflix TV Shows?
One of the most-cited problems when talking about crossing over the TV shows and movies in the MCU has been scheduling both projects in a way that they don't interfere with each other. To understand how these affect each other, we first have to know what kind of filming schedule an average Netflix show and an MCU movie each has.
Marvel adheres to a very quick working schedule. Usually, their movies start filming a year before the release date. The average shooting schedule is five to six months but there are exceptions. To give you an example, principal photography for Captain America: Civil War started filming at the very end of April 2015 and wrapped production on August of that year, just a three-month period.
Netflix TV Shows
So far, the Marvel/Netflix shows filming schedules haven't been as clear as the movies but we have an idea of how long production takes. Marvel's Daredevil began filming in the summer of 2014 and wrapped on December of that same year. Showrunner Steven DeKnight made the announcement through Twitter.
While there isn't an exact production starting date, it was most likely a five-month period.
When And Where Are 'Infinity War' and 'The Defenders' Shooting?
This is the most important aspect to examine. With both projects filming in 2016 and 2017, the schedules for the TV actors could be accommodated to fit them on the big screen at some point. The thing is that we have to look at when they're actually shooting and where, so let's get into it:
Avengers: Infinity War
Earlier this year, during an interview with Deadline, the Russo Brothers were asked about when they would start working on the third Avengers movie. Here's what Joe Russo said:
"We already started them, a couple months ago. We had to. We start shooting in November, two movies back to back. So we need two scripts ASAP, and we probably started working on them six months ago."
An Indiegogo campaign for Dizzy Pursuit, a movie executive produced by the Russo brothers, had as one of the rewards a visit to the Infinity War set; it revealed production lasting from November 2016 to July 2017.
The same campaign also states the movie will be filmed in Atlanta, Georgia. It makes sense. Marvel does most of its filming at the Pinewood Studios in Atlanta now, with a few things being shot at the sister studios in the U.K.
During a Netflix event in April of last year, Charlie Cox (Matt Murdock/Daredevil) revealed when The Defenders would begin shooting:
“What we do know is at the end of this year we’re going to be making The Defenders and, of course, Daredevil is very much a part of that foursome.”
Two weeks ago, actor Finn Jones (Danny Rand/Iron Fist) revealed through Instagram that Iron Fist had wrapped production:
What does that have to do with anything? While doing a live-stream on the official Luke Cage Facebook page with Mike Colter (Luke Cage), Finn Jones joined the fun. The actors talked about the short breaks between Jessica Jones and Luke Cage and Iron Fist and The Defenders and Jones had this to say:
"I think I've got like a three-week break before we start Defenders."
That was a week before Iron Fist wrapped. So, doing the math, The Defenders will start shooting next week, which is early November.
The Defenders will be filmed in New York City. When the ambitious plan to bring these shows together was revealed in 2013, the press release stated all of them would be filmed in New York City. New York Governor Andre Cuomo said this:
"The competition for these projects is fierce and Disney could have chosen to film these shows anywhere, but they knew that shooting in New York means getting to work with the best in world. These shows bring New York's super heroes home where they belong--along with hundreds of jobs and millions of dollars in new business."
Scheduling-Wise, Is A Crossover Even Possible?
Yes, and there's an incredible advantage that The Defenders has: Filming ends right in the middle of Infinity War's back-to-back production schedule. Both movies are being shot concurrently, but not necessarily consecutively. What many fans don't realize is that movies are very rarely shot in chronological order; usually they're shot out of sequence to accommodate the schedules of the cast members or certain filming locations. It's entirely possible that Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage could pop up either in Infinity War or Avengers 4.
Still, it's a likelier possibility for them to appear in Avengers 4. With Defenders finishing filming right in the middle of the massive production for both event movies, could it be that the script for the untitled Avengers movie has them as part of the newly-formed team, at least temporarily to face the Thanos threat?
Of course, there's a chance that The Defenders show up in movies much later down the line. But I think we can all agree that them meeting the current line-up of MCU movie heroes would be amazing and make the universe feel much more connected.
Do you think we'll see The Defenders join The Avengers any time soon? When would you like to see that happen?
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