ByDarth TARDIS., writer at Creators.co
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Darth TARDIS.

I seem to be getting into the habit of doing this, though the other two I've done, one on TV and one on the movies, seems to have been well received, so hopefully I can tackle this one. A few individual posts have been done by others before, but I've had far too much exposure to the internet this weekend regarding Batman VS Superman and it's slowly driving me insane. So, I'll keep it short and sweet, but people need to realise the casting in this movie is not bad, and even if you think it is, you've seen none of the new characters acting their roles yet, so you've really got nothing to judge off but prejudice. Casting is also not the be all end all of a movie. I won't be doing ones already established in [Man of Steel](movie:15593). So, without further ado:

Ben Affleck- Batman/Bruce Wayne

Let's start with the biggest one who got the largest amount of hate, and already people have turned around said "hang on, he actually looks a lot like Batman when he's in costume." We have nothing to judge him off as Batman yet- let alone Daredevil, everyone's favourite movie to fling at this casting, so you can stop there, the morons who love to bring up a movie over a decade old where Ben's acting was not at fault underneath a poor script and poor direction. His most recent films, including Gone Girl and Argo, have been critically acclaimed and critics particularly cited his acting as excellent. His recent work is far better to go off than his old work, and it's been very well liked, in short.

He is also, despite occasionally being a little tempered while doing so, one of the more intelligent and respectable men in Hollywood. He can carry a cool intelligence and quiet anger/brooding, which really makes him ideal for Batman. He also has definitely developed the build for the role, and from the Comic Con footage, definitely seems to have the required serious face when he's in costume. On top of that, from all of his interviews, he seems very committed to the role, he's a fan of the character, friends with some people who really wouldn't let him mess it up like Kevin Smith, and, what's more, is aware of the outrage at his casting. Plus, as Jack Roberts in the comments points out, the guy is a huge fan- he's built his own Batcave, and expressed concern he wouldn't do the character justice and only took the role when persuaded. Nothing is a motivator quite like proving those prejudiced against you wrong, so I think that will definitely alter the final outcome.

What we know of his character is as follows:

"Bruce Wayne is a much more social animal. Batman is an extremely rough guy. Very, very, very rough."

So playboy comic Bruce Wayne by day, and Arkham style Batman by night. How could anyone complain about that? Furthering this, he suits his alter ego very well. Bruce Wayne, the handsome playboy billionaire. I think Affleck can pull that off with minimal effort, and I imagine he'll be spending a fair bit of time out of the suit in the movie. Below is some more photos, concept and fan art featuring him.

Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne on set.
Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne on set.
Pfft, Affleck doesn't look anything like-
Pfft, Affleck doesn't look anything like-
- oh wait. He might, actually.
- oh wait. He might, actually.
Credit to my friend Wee_Arts who made this, don't repost.
Credit to my friend Wee_Arts who made this, don't repost.
Credit to my friend Wee_Arts who made this, don't repost.
Credit to my friend Wee_Arts who made this, don't repost.


Gal Gadot- Wonder Woman/Diana Prince

This one certainly seemed to cause controversy too, though I distinctly remember when the first photo of her in costume came out, alongside the inevitable bashing, there were a lot of "oh, she actually looks good" and praise for Gal and Snyder. We haven't seen very much of her character at all, even if we seem to know we'll visit Themyscria at some point in the movie. I'd also invite you to look at Marc Rod's article on defending this casting, as it makes good points.

Firstly, let's just establish something- that photo is filtered. You'll realise there actually is quite clear red and blue on her costume, so you don't have to complain about that. Even if it were brown, she's not suggested to be fully established as Wonder Woman yet, more just an Amazonian from Themyscria from what we know, so this actually makes more sense. The leather is also practical, when she's clearly suiting for battle, not for show. Her lasso is at her waist pretty clearly, and she has her armbands (yes, I've heard she doesn't, just to give you an idea of the spectrum of idiocy) so that's not a point for complaint either. Also, if you dislike the costume, how exactly is that Gadot's fault?

Gal Gadot is a Hollywood level actor, and she was cast in this role over many others through an audition process. It's very easy to typecast an actor into particular roles, as was done with Heath Ledger when it was suggested he'd play a "pretty boy Joker." The response to Gadot is much the same, just the opposite gender version. She must have done something right in her audition to land a gig like this, and even if she didn't, how are we to judge? We haven't seen it.

Another complaint is "she's not muscled." Aside from the fact I think that's clinging to something, given when Black Widow was cast and the quite well liked and cited 70s Wonder Woman show no muscle was in sight, Gadot has clearly been bulking up of late, and actually fits the specific height and weight of Wonder Woman quite well. She also looks quite similar to the New 52 Wonder Woman. Marc goes into specifics in his aforementioned article. Comic characters, it's worth noting, typically do not exist in the real word, so they won't find someone identical. Shock horror, I know.

Taken from Marc Rod's article, filter removed.
Taken from Marc Rod's article, filter removed.
Clearest photo of Diana Prince we have.
Clearest photo of Diana Prince we have.

Jesse Eisenberg- Lex Luthor.

Thanks again, Wee_Arts.
Thanks again, Wee_Arts.

Now THIS caused a storm. But he's so young, everyone screamed! It then degraded into He's not (insert actor!) Scrawny kid! Yeah, yeah we get it. (By the way, any unintelligent bashing like that in the comments will be removed, you can count on that.) The thing with this choice is we have even less to go off than the other two as we haven't even seen him properly on set. What we do know is that this Lex will be younger, and likely be vilifying Superman. Given the story they're telling, I don't think his age is really a problem, and if it is, that is a hole that can be picked in any movie which tells a story and also features a character who is a certain age. (That is, every single one of them, with the possible exception of Transformers: Age of Extinction for the former criteria.)

The problem is everyone seems to assume that this Lex will just be a replication of Jesse Eisenberg's Mark Zuckerberg in The Social Network. Where exactly did you get that idea? Eisenberg has been in a great many roles, all quite different, but they do share something frequently- intelligence, arrogance, and, occasionally, a touch of intellectual menace. If you've seen him in Now you see me, you'll know he can pull off the "I'm the smartest person in the room and I know it" gig quite well, which is crucial for Lex. He's widely praised as a capable actor, so I don't think that's in question.

Looks, if anything, are quite superficial and easy to judge off, but we've seen from the two other mentioned cases that that's really quite easy to fix. Lex Luthor does not have to be physically imposing. Indeed, that's among the genius of his character. His greatest weapon against the Man of Steel is his mind, and his body is not an issue at all. That's why he invents a super robot suit, remember? If you're concerned about his hair, let's also remember that there are such things as hair clippers and a razor, and Lex Luthor has had hair before.

The same thing mentioned earlier about awareness of the hate and the according motivation, as well as the fact he was chosen over many others for this, fits here. Contrary to your belief, the casting directors at Warner Bros are not morons trying to destroy their films. They know what they're doing. Furthering that, their paycheck at the end of the day depends on how much this movie makes, so they want it to do well and to be made well.Have a little faith. This applies to every bit of casting in any film of this size.

Jeremy Irons- Alfred Pennyworth

Of course, as with all good things, this rather inspired piece of casting is...well, completely ignored. Aside from the fact that Jeremy Irons was actually fancast quite often in Batman Reboot speculation, this man has very serious acting ability, and the look to play a superb Alfred. Of course, don't let that get in the way of bashing all other casting choices and saying "every person in this movie is awfully cast." Carry on.

Whether Irons plays a Michael Caine like Alfred or a harder one such as the one we see in Gotham, played by Sean Pertwee, I'm convinced he'll do a very good job at it. We don't know how much he'll feature in the movie, but I'm tipping on in most Bruce Wayne scenes, and all Batcave ones. If Oracle isn't in this movie, he will likely fill that role, which I would very much like.

Jason Momoa- Aquaman

Thanks again, Wee_Arts.
Thanks again, Wee_Arts.

Best known for his work in Game of Thrones as general hardcore ruthless leader of the Dothraki Khal Drago, believe it or not, there was annoyance towards this casting as well. Momoa is a talented actor, even when only speaking in a foreign language on GOT, so, like with most other choices here, it would seem that's not even worth talking about. Most common complaint? He's not blonde. Seriously, people, get a grip. There's a thing called hair dye, and he may well be dirty blonde, which would give him a very rugged surfer-like look they're apparently going for. And if he's not, ask yourself seriously- what does it matter? (But, as a blonde guy, I kind of do want to see a blonde superhero, especially when it fits with the mythos of his Atlantean character.) Again, we haven't even seen him in character yet, and while he'll helm a film, we don't know if he'll be in Dawn of Justice.

Another common complaint is that Aquaman is a lame character who doesn't deserve to be in any movies. If you think this, look beyond your obscured view of the character from Super Friends and popular culture, and read a comic. The King of the Sea does far more than just talk to fish.

Yeah, he's actually pretty cool.
Yeah, he's actually pretty cool.

Ezra Miller - [The Flash](series:1068303) / (Unknown alter ego).

While he's not even confirmed to be in this movie, and he's only been announced as Flash for a day or two, there's hate aplenty. You can have a read of my defence of him which I published yesterday here. In short, if you've been bashing other casting choices, save yourself the embarrassment this time. Worth noting we don't know whether he'll be Barry, Wally, etc.

Jena Malone - Unknown. (Rumours.)

Concept of Jena as Robin by Wee_Arts.
Concept of Jena as Robin by Wee_Arts.

This remains unconfirmed, and yet still people are finding a way to use it to attack the movie. Well done, guys, how proud of yourself you must be. Jena Malone is largely speculated to be in this movie, and after she dyed her hair red, it's suggested she'll likely be playing Carrie Kelley, female Robin from The Dark Knight Returns. While Dick Grayson remains my favourite Robin, I applaud DC for taking this move, and it lines up with TDKR, which is what this movie seems to be heavily based on for a lot of elements.

Jena Malone, in short is pretty awesome. She proved she could fight and look awesome doing it in Catching Fire, and she also proved herself a capable actor. The most common complaint here as been she's female. As a guy, before you accuse me of being a 'whining female,' I would gladly label you better suited to a few centuries ago. So what if she's a girl? Robin has been female in the comics before, even if they're not the greatest versions, and likely will be again. This also doesn't mean we won't see Dick Grayson- we may well see him as Nightwing, his arguably cooler super identity. I'd also like to see her as Barbara Gordon, which is entirely possible.

Ray Fisher - Cyborg/Victor Stone.

We know that Victor Stone will be in this movie, even if it's only in a very small cameo, and we don't know if [Cyborg](movie:1043082) will show up. I was almost tempted not to include him, but Ray Fisher actually looks similar to Victor Stone in the comics. He's escaped the hate (nice little thing to put on a t-shirt) because he's not as well known and the casting news isn't as well known, nor is the extent of his involvement. We know, though, that he'll helm Cyborg in 2020, and if DC- or Warner Bros, more appropriately- are willing to pop him in a solo movie I'm quite confident. His acting by those who've seen his work, which isn't a lot, is also well praised, even though I haven't seen much of it myself.

Now comes the risky part- let me know your thoughts in the comments. As on my other articles, which I've been really pleased by the response to, I'd appreciate well reasoned, logical arguments, not senseless bashing please. And for god's sake, if one person says this movie is overcrowded, I will- no, never mind. Just read Marc Rod's article on why this movie is not overcrowded before you comment. I've been saying it myself for a while- this movie really doesn't have that many characters, especially compared to other films.

Finally, before you go saying "DC sucks at casting," remember, these are professionals with infinitely more casting experience than you have, and, finally, DC- the ones who "suck?" - are also responsible for this. Which is just a snippet of the fantastic work they've done.

For the record: I'm not asking you to like this movie, or to like DC. I'm simply asking you not to be stupid. I think, sadly, that on the day this movie opens, stupid and blind haters will go and poorly review this film on forums and sites across the web without even seeing it. And yes, that is stupid. Get offended, I really don't care, because that is bigoted, and, quite frankly, dumb. So that's all I ask. Don't be dumb. Be fair.

Now that I've covered all of that, it's worth noting that the only person out of the mainstream New 52 Justice League confirmed to appear but yet to be cast is Green Lantern. Who would you like to see play him? Furthering that, out of the original Justice League, we've got all of them (plus Cyborg) except for Martian Manhunter confirmed. Want to see him? Let me know that, too.

Now, given you've read that- or at least skipped to the bottom of the page- here is Wee_Arts' take on what Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and The Joker (Jared Leto) could look like in [Suicide Squad](movie:2283363), assuming their roles are confirmed.

...and it's pretty perfect.
...and it's pretty perfect.

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