ByRose Moore, writer at Creators.co
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crossover happened this week, and I think it was universally agreed to be awesome. We got to see the two of them duke it out, great action scenes, amazing character development, and each episode matched the tone of it's own show (the Flash episode being, as always, much more lighthearted than Arrow). On top of all that, there was one line that had the fandom buzzing, because it almost sounded like Harrison Wells mentioned....BATMAN!?

Dun dun duuuuuuuunnnnn....
Dun dun duuuuuuuunnnnn....

In case you missed it, when Harrison was talking about his distrust of "The Arrow" (something of a theme in this episode), he says " what Batman does is carry out a dark reckoning for his city"...or did he?

From some careful listening and watching with subtitles, sadly, I have to say....no. Actually, the full conversation goes something like this:

"You're a hero Barry. You offer protection, hope, light...what that man does is carry out a dark reckoning for his city. It is a brutal, violent vision of justice, one we do not share. You truly think he's a hero? Fine, so be it. But he's not the kind you should be looking up to."
He's VERY. SERIOUS.
He's VERY. SERIOUS.

This is at a point where the Arrow has just showed up at Starlabs, when Wells and West call Barry away to have a serious chat. The entire conversation revolves around the Arrow, with Barry arguing that he is a hero, and Wells countering that no, he isn't, because he kills people.

WHO said I'm not a hero?!?!
WHO said I'm not a hero?!?!

While it does sound briefly like the word is "Batman", lets face it, it just wouldn't make sense. Why drop in the name of another superhero in a conversation that is all about the differences between Barry and Oliver. The whole episode is called "Flash vs Arrow", for pete's sake! It's very clear to me that this conversation exists primarily to set up the premise of the crossover - the two sides of being a superhero as shown by these two men.

Major differences....
Major differences....

Barry, first up, is a dyed-in-the-wool good guy. Always wanting to help the downtrodden, he is gifted with a superpower that allows him to do just that. He is much more naive, much more black-and-white, and doesn't battle with himself the way that Oliver does. In a way, Wells has a point. There is really no doubting that Barry is a "hero", and he always does the least harm, protecting people against supervillains.

Oliver, on the other hand, never really cared too much about helping the little guy. A billionaire, a playboy, interested in fast cars and expensive suits and pretty girls, his "gifts" (or skills) were forced upon him. He went to hell and back to become who he is, and he fights (mostly) human criminals, and isn't afraid of hurting certain people or killing along the way. He is a darker, more violent hero-type, and throughout the two crossover episodes, we see how much this scares Barry and his team. (Even though they each come to a deeper understanding of themselves in the end.....awwwwwwwwww!)

Sorry, nope.
Sorry, nope.

Even if the CW hero-verse was to reference Batman, this wouldn't be the way to do it. In a conversation about a vigilante not being worthy of the "hero" tag because he kills people, Batman would be comparable to The Flash, not The Arrow. "Dark reckoning" may be words that fit the Dark Knight, but "brutal and violent" really aren't. For this line to be "Batman" just doesn't make sense in the context of Wells' speech.

Finally, it doesn't make sense to be bringing up Batman right now, because there is little chance that we will be seeing him (or really any of the JLA "big three") in the CW universe. There are currently two new versions of Batman being introduced to the world, in Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, and in Gotham. The chances of a third variant being created at the same time is slim to none. It is far more likely that should an interconnected Justice League universe come to our screens, the next character will be someone we have not seen much of in the live-action world.

Who could be next?
Who could be next?

However, all that being said, and with the awareness that Harrison Wells absolutely, definitely did NOT mean to say "Batman", I can almost guarantee that Tom Cavanagh intended the line to sound that way. The Flash is constantly referencing other nerdy shows (such as Cisco quoting Star Wars only moments before this conversation!), and is often winking to the audience with the names of the "metahumans" and many, many nods to the comic books. Remember that line a "man of steel"? Exactly. That is the kind of thing that this show loves to do all the time, because they know their audience. They enjoy the little moments that make geeks squeal and snicker, and there is little doubt in my mind that this was another one.

This. All of this when they filmed that scene..
This. All of this when they filmed that scene..

It is possible that at a later date, we will hear about Batman (although I doubt that we will see him). There is plenty of set up between Arrow and R'as Al Ghul, after all - the league of assassins is a major part of that series. There is every possibility that the StarLabs research into Metahumans brings them in contact with Gotham, or that one of the police departments connects with Gotham PD, or that there is a villain down the line who has escaped Bruce Wayne only to confront one of these two other superheros.

It would be an awesome thing to see, and maybe this is even a very subtle hint to get the fans thinking about a larger connected universe, but for now, it's time to admit that Batman didn't happen. (Yet)

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