BySean Erickson, writer at Creators.co
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[Terminator Genisys](movie:34872) has some explaining to do. The fifth Terminator movie is in that position of raising more questions than it answers every time more information comes out. How many T-800s are there? What the heck is a T-5000? Some new details that have emerged about the first time the two T-800's played by Arnold Schwarzenegger meet in 1984 is another case in point.

1984 Arnold Schwarzenegger returns.
1984 Arnold Schwarzenegger returns.

The Terminator We've Been Waiting For

Speaking to The Arnold Fans, the actor had some interesting things to say about how the events of the first Terminator movie are going to play out in this sequel. It reminds me a bit of those scenes in Back to the Future 2 when two different Marty McFly's are running around in 1955.

Start your Marty McFly/Terminator fan fiction now!
Start your Marty McFly/Terminator fan fiction now!

He describes the scene when his T-800 from the first Terminator movie arrives and walks naked over to a group of hoodlums starts to play out in Terminator: Genisys just as it did before only this time when the T-800 says, "Give me your clothes," an older T-800 is standing behind him and says, "You won't need them."

Scene that gets replayed in Terminator Genisys.
Scene that gets replayed in Terminator Genisys.

Young Arnold turns around to see 60 year old Arnold standing there with a shotgun and the older version proceeds to blast the newly arrived T-800 to smithereens. We can all hope that maybe he says something like, "Welcome to 1984, pal," after he blows the thing to pieces.

I'm pretty sure this is the scene that we see bits of in the trailer - where Arnold is holding the shotgun and also gives the line, "I've been waiting for you."

Rewriting History

This does indeed raise some questions as to how much knowledge the old T-800 is carrying with him. The plot description that is out there for Terminator: Genisys (I will never spell that word correctly on the first go) has this 1984 version of Sarah Conner (Emilia Clarke) being protected since she was nine years old by this T-800 that has aged alongside Sarah in the years since he first arrived.

Young Sarah Conner getting rescued by a T-800.
Young Sarah Conner getting rescued by a T-800.

So it can be assumed that this T-800 that was sent back in time to protect the young Sarah Conner was also programmed to know the events that we saw in the original Terminator movie, right? We can also see from the trailer that Sarah Conner is there with the van to pick up Kyle Reese (Jai Courtney) when he arrives - and saves him from a T-1000. Man, trying to wrap your head around this movie is dizzying.

Emilia Clarke plays Sarah Conner in this timeline.
Emilia Clarke plays Sarah Conner in this timeline.

The Ultimate Villain

What I still find interesting - and what starts to piece things together for me, is if John Conner is actually the bad guy in this movie. There was another quote from the recent things that Arnold said that could support this rumor.

"We'll be having some great surprises about who is the ultimate villain that I have to fight, how I was reprogramed, and the time travel. You can't travel through time when you have metal exposed, and my arm gets deteriorated... the flesh, because of some acid... so then my metal arm is exposed, therefore I cannot use the time machine."

We see this exposed metal arm in the trailer as well - but what is more interesting is the first part of the quote where Arnold mentions a surprise ultimate villain. Who else could it really be?

No arm, no time travel for this Terminator.
No arm, no time travel for this Terminator.

What could make Terminator: Genisys even more interesting that John Conner could end up being corrupted or forcibly taken over by Skynet is that he still needs to send Kyle Reese back in time in order to be born. So even John Conner might not want to send Reese back in time as he could prove successful in ultimately stopping Skynet from the past - he has to or else he doesn't get born.

Is this John Conner working for Skynet?
Is this John Conner working for Skynet?

That's still a bit confusing but it makes sense because it allows this new projected trilogy to tell a new story. It finally moves what was previously just an endless loop with no real consequences forward in a meaningful way that raises the stakes for the characters involved and means we could be actually getting somewhere in this war against Skynet.

If there wasn't the possibility that we could see something this drastic happen in [Terminator Genisys](movie:34872) I probably wouldn't be looking forward to seeing the movie. All the movie needs to do now is finally give a bit of a hint as to what is up with Matt Smith's character, and whether or not he really is some crazy nanobot T-5000 in the movie, and I might be completely sold. How about you?

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