ByEleanor Tremeer, writer at Creators.co
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DC's hottest properties right now, both [Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice](tag:711870) and Suicide Squad are shrouded in rumour. With clear connections between the two films, it's obvious that they will be crucial in building DC's new movie universe, and set up future films like Justice League Part One.

With a trailer that teased Batman's appearance in Suicide Squad, many fans are wondering if the film will go even further in blurring the lines of good and evil by, get this, having Batman as the villain?! Yup, it's theory time, so grab your speculation hat as we dissect this rumour and how it might just work.

Hero Or Dangerous Vigilante?

Ok, so we've known for a while now that Ben Affleck's version of Batman will be EVEN DARKER than we've seen before. We know he's been at the hero game for a while now, he's grizzled and cynical and tired of getting nothing but resentment for his efforts.

Ben Affleck is back in black
Ben Affleck is back in black

He's also very concerned with everyday criminals and making the streets safer for ordinary citizens, which contrasts greatly with Superman's godlike fights with powerful alien beings. In the face of Superman's powers and the knowledge that there are much greater threats out there, Bruce Wayne has to come to terms with feelings of fear and vulnerability, as Zack Snyder recently revealed.

"We want to assume that Batman has reached this point in his life and career as a superhero, and Superman represents a sort of philosophical change. He is a paradigm shift for Batman: 'I've been fighting criminals all my life, trying to find justice, and now I am confronted with a concept that is transcendent to me.' In the face of Superman, a man robbing a bank doesn't matter."

This background may well be fleshed out in Suicide Squad, as it is rumoured to be revealed that for all his heroism, the US government don't actually appreciate Batman's efforts. Instead, they see him as a menace, a force they cannot control. But thanks to Bruce Wayne keeping a low profile, Batman is considered something of a bogeyman, never seen in the light of day and eluding the government's attempts at interference.

So what's the best way to take down a threat that hides in the shadows? Well, by hiring a squad of seriously shadowy individuals of course! Enter the Suicide Squad: criminals with a vendetta against Batman thanks to him being a serious thorn in their side for years.

Family portrait
Family portrait

But wait, if Batman v Superman sees the two eventually team up to take down a villainous threat to humanity, surely the US government wouldn't want to take Batman out after his heroic efforts? So this is when the theory gets interesting...

Twisted Timeline

Thanks to the trailers for both Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad, we know that the two films will be connected via the Joker's history with the Caped Crusader. Just in case you missed those hints, here's a quick recap: the Joker killed Robin as evidenced by his graffitied suit in the BvS trailer, and Batman tried to hitch a ride on the Joker and Harley Quinn's joyride in the Suicide Squad trailer. But here's what we don't know: WHEN these events occurred.

According to this theory, Suicide Squad actually takes place BEFORE BvS, giving Batman some backstory and explaining both Robin's death and the government's animosity towards him (and heroes in general) in BvS. So the timeline would be as follows...

  • Batman helps create the Joker by accidentally pushing him into a vat of acid.
  • Joker retaliates by killing Robin.
  • Suicide Squad movie flashback: Batman chases down Joker, seeking revenge, and intercepts his and Harley's joyride.
Guuuuyyys wait for meeeeee
Guuuuyyys wait for meeeeee
  • This causes some kind of collision and citizen deaths.
  • Suicide Squad movie: The government decide Batman is a threat and form the Suicide Squad to stop him.
  • ????????
  • Batman v Superman movie: Government still aren't happy with Batman or Superman but after they save the day all is well.

Hmmm... I suppose it checks out? Maybe? Sorta?

It's time to debunk!

Well, this theory might explain the connection between Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman, and it certainly would be interesting for Suicide Squad to be a prequel, but for me the biggest question in this theory is: why? If Batman really was the one to catch all the members of Task Force X and incarcerate them in Belle Vue, then why would the government want him assasinated? However, there is credence to the idea that Batman is seen as a shady vigilante bogeyman, as that feeds into the mistrust of heroes that is evidenced in Batman v Superman.

Besides, the appearance of Joker's apparent goons, along with his menacing presence in the trailer implies that he may be the villain of the piece..

Or the ultimate antagonist Task Force X is tracking down could even be Enchantress: she's missing from the team's group shots, and HeroicHollywood recently reported that she will be Suicide Squad's villain.

So what do you think gang: is there any traction to the idea that Batman will be Suicide Squad's villain? If not, who could it be? Let us know in the comments, or write your own post!

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