...opinion, and I will never say someone's opinion is wrong. I'll argue it all day, but I will never say you're wrong. Now, as to the Mob being the reason that Bruce drove himself to become Batman, you are entirely, absolutely, correct. That was his original impetus, and in the beginning, that's what he was fighting against. But as Batman became BATMAN, a figure to be feared, they kind of fell to the way-side, and became ancillary characters, making way for the super villains and psychotics we have come to love/hate. As to Bruce's bits training that we see here and there, it's a prelude to his full training that he gets later. That's the thing about this show: It's not about Bruce becoming Batman. It's about the journey Gotham takes before this happens. Gordon hasn't turned it around, and he never will. Even Batman never fully turned it around, just stemmed the tide and calmed it way down. All Gordon has done so far, is to shine a light on it and get things starting to turn in the right direction. Just the way I see Gotham headed. And I watched Daredevil. You are correct. Completely awesome and inspired viewing. I'm waiting (not so) patiently for Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and The Defenders. That's the upside of Netflix. They can go places that Fox will never be able to go and tell a darker, richer story. I'd say all in all, we both see Gotham headed towards the same end, the difference being, I am enjoying it and am seeing what I expected, and you are not. I think the difference is, basically, there's no Batman in a Batman-verse (yes, that's a stupid word, but I couldn't think of anything else at the moment) story.