ByRand Benjamin Einfeldt, writer at
I'm a Fan Theorist. I give ridiculous predictions for movies and TV shows. I'd like to call them "Ridictable Theories"!
Rand Benjamin Einfeldt

Another fan theory has sparked my interest on the internet. For the sake of time, I'm going to sum it up. But you can read the full story here!

This theory has to do with Batman going back in time to see his parents one last time. But it doesn't stop there! Oh no… it has Batman witness the last moments of his younger self before Joe Chill gunned them in front of him. Batman waited to see the man who was the catalyst of his existence, but there was no sign of the culprit. While counting down to the seconds expecting the gun to fire, the aged Bat then realized that He was The Man! He was Joe Chill! It was Him all along!

With this amazing theory, I would like to expound on it. Now keep in mind, it is just a theory and should be treated as such. But if this theory checks out, then it is an awesome theory!

My theory plays with the idea that the aged Batman becomes The Joker! Crazy I know! But hear me out as these Joker quotes from The Dark Knight movie will help support this theory:

1- "I don’t want to kill you! What would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No, no, NO! No. You… you… complete me!"

Granted that before the interrogating scene The Joker told a bunch of criminals that they needed to simply “Kill the Batman!” But what if he was really referring to himself?

Kind of pulling the Obi-Wan Kenobi card when Obi-Wan told Luke that Darth Vader murdered his father. “What [he] said was true from a certain point of view.” This would make sense in the scene where The Joker wants Batman to hit him in the open streets as he fired at him with a gun. Instead, Batman avoids crashing into him and eventually crashes himself(and we'll get to that later).

Even when The Joker is quoting Jerry McGuire, “You complete me!” This quote in itself makes sense, because he is him! Unless of course Ledger was hinting at his role in Brokeback Mountain(and we will NOT get into that haha).

2- "...You won’t kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness. And I won’t kill you because you’re just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever."

The Joker knows that he is fighting his younger self(Batman) and he can't kill him because Batman hasn't gone back in time to kill his parents yet. Not only that, it makes sense that they are destined to forever fight each other because they're caught in an eternal time loop!

3- "I believe whatever doesn’t kill you, simply makes you…stranger."

In this big time loop pretzel, Batman is basically immortal. He slowly becomes “stranger” becomes the Joker realizes that he can’t kill Batman. If he does, The Joker will cease to exist… and the same goes for Batman.

4- “Do you want to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You can’t savor all the… little emotions. In… you see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way, I know your friends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them were cowards?”

This may be a bit of a stretch, but I personally think that the reason The Joker chose to talk about the difference between guns and knives in this scene is because Batman’s parents were gunned down and the young Bruce Wayne was not able to “savor the emotions” that he wanted before they died. When the future Batman kills his parents the previous theory says that he jumped off the bridge and was later found with no ID. What if later on in his life, the Time Traveling Crusader couldn’t quite deal with living at a different frame than his own and got a little crazy one night and took a knife and made his own smile to mirror his nemesis. Thus making it clear that he know who really was when he used the knife.

Batman knew that he couldn’t escape his fate. He was no longer The Dark Knight he is The White Knight of Gotham!

5- “Don’t talk like one of them. You’re not! Even if you’d like to be. To them, you’re just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don’t, they’ll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. I’ll show you. When the chips are down, these… these civilized people, they’ll eat each other. See, I’m not a monster. I’m just ahead of the curve.”

This one is a bit lengthy, but I'll explain what is meant in this quote.

Firstly “... You're just a freak, like me!” That quote alone states that The Joker is hinting to Batman that they are one and the same.

Next “They need you right now, but when they don’t, they’ll cast you out, like a leper!” The Joker is telling Batman what will happen to him, because he is obviously from the future and has seen it all. It is evident that this statement comes true near the end of the movie when the cops sic the dogs on Batman.

Lastly “See, I’m not a monster. I’m just ahead of the curve.” Being “ahead of the curve” literally refers to your position on the statistical bell curve, where the top of the curve represents the median, average result. By being ahead of the curve you represent the top percentile of results that either has the advanced skills or understanding that sets you apart. This definition makes perfect sense that The Joker would be the time traveler in this situation. He is literally “ahead of the curve” because he is literally ahead of his time.

6- “C’mon I want you to do it… Hit me!”

I said that I would come back to this scene. In this scene, The reason The Joker wanted Batman to hit him was to end it all! This was Batman's last chance to get out of the time loop.

7- “Those mob fools want you gone so they can get back to the way things were. But I know the truth: there's no going back. You've changed things... forever.”

When The Joker said, “You’ve changed things… forever.” It would make one think, “What did Batman change in the timeline?” and if he did, “What did the change effect in the timeline that made The Joker upset?” Could it have been that moment Batman was supposed to hit The Joker, but he didn’t? We all know that The Joker is not a man with a plan, but what if this sudden change in events foiled his plan to just wing it and drop all the plans he had before?

But that’s not all. In Batman Begins Gordon introduces The Joker for the first time:

“Armed robbery double homicide. I little taste of the theatrical… like you.” There we go again… “... like you.” Granted that it might’ve been meaning that they’re both like each other’s yin and yangs, but I personally think it’s more than that.

What do you think… Does this theory make you bat an eye or is this some kind of sick joke?


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