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Eleanor Tremeer

We thought we'd get all the answers to our questions when [Star Wars: Episode VII — The Force Awakens](tag:711158) was finally released, and yet the film posed almost as many mysteries as it solved. Kylo Ren's shroud was pulled back at last... and yet, there's still a lot we don't know. Who are the eternally enigmatic Knights of Ren? And how did Supreme Leader Snoke coerce Kylo Ren to the Dark Side?

Well, thanks to Lucasfilm Creative Executive Pablo Hidalgo, some light has finally been shed on this issue. And it turns out that scene isn't what we thought at all...

Spoiler warning: warning, spoilers! If you haven't seen the movie (see it!!) then enjoy this handy video which blocks the view. If you have seen it, scroll on!

This new revelation has such huge implications that I honestly don't know where to start — but here goes: So, remember the scene in Rey's vision where she sees Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren surrounded by bodies? Well, it turns out...

This scene ISN'T set at the Jedi Academy!

Meaning that this doesn't depict Kylo Ren slaying Luke Skywalker's apprentices. Which is what we all assumed.

Gif by setfiretoyourfavs on Tumblr
Gif by setfiretoyourfavs on Tumblr

Pablo Hidalgo dropped this plot bombshell via Twitter, causing the speculation mill to start churning out yet more theories. Here's the revelation...

The murder in question happens right before the shot of the Knights of Ren, and it's definitely part of the same scene. So there you have it folks: Kylo Ren may not have actually killed the Jedi students at all. In fact, we don't know for sure if Luke even trained anyone other than Ben Solo — Kylo Ren's betrayal is the only information we have about Luke Skywalker's past. The only other hint was this flashback scene, which seems to not take place at the new Academy at all.

Wow. Put me down as confused but intrigued. So what can we glean from all this? Turns out, an awful lot. Especially when we consider those characters who were supposedly cut from The Force Awakens...

Did This Happen On Jakku?

All right, I know it's raining. But rain does happen in deserts sometimes, so let's just put that point aside for the moment to examine some evidence. Back before Star Wars 7 was released, this guy appeared in the promotional press.

Constable Zuvio - just a red herring?
Constable Zuvio - just a red herring?

His name is Constable Zuvio, and he's the "hard as nails law officer keeping order on Jakku," according to Empire Magazine's November issue. Does he look familiar? Probably not, as he didn't seem to be present in the Jakku scenes. However, that "clan leader" Kylo Ren kills does sport a very familiar looking hat...

This creature also seems to sport similar chest and shoulder armor to the ones Constable Zuvio wears. Hmm... there's another apparently unused character who looks suspiciously similar to one of Kylo Ren's knights.

Sarco Plank - one of the Knights of Ren?
Sarco Plank - one of the Knights of Ren?

The guy in the red cloak is Sarco Plank, and here's his official description.

An eyeless insectoid member of the Melitto species... an amoral scavenger, bounty hunter and arms dealer who does business in Niima Outpost on Jakku.

Ok, Plank's a bit of a stretch, but it's possible he's actually a member of the Knights of Ren, or joined them when Kylo Ren attacked Jakku in the flashback. Zuvio's similarity to Kylo Ren's victim can't be ignored, so what does all this mean for the plot?

The Mystery Of Rey's Past

This is when we get deep into speculation territory and honestly, we don't know whether what Rey saw in her vision was her own memory or just a vision of the past (or uh... the future).

Rey befriends BB-8
Rey befriends BB-8

But if we assume this flashback was her own repressed memories, and considering the link to Jakku this seems possible, then maybe Rey was present at this massacre. If this is the case, what was Kylo Ren doing on Jakku?

What Else This Could Mean?

If we ignore the apparent Jakku link, there are still plenty of other options...

  • The "clan leader" is the old leader of the Knights of Ren, and by killing him Kylo Ren is gaining command.
  • This happened before Kylo Ren betrayed Luke Skywalker.
  • If this is so, it means that Rey's parents could have known about the danger the Knights of Ren posed to Rey, and hid her on Jakku.
Ouch, my heart...
Ouch, my heart...

With such little information, it's difficult to deduce exactly what all of this means for the plot. But at least we have plenty of time before Star Wars Episode 8 to work it out!

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