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Marc Guggenheim sat down with Entertainment Tonight and explained why Laurel died. First, will somebody explain to me how Thea can take Malcolm, but she gets beat down by Cupid? I don't know if I just want everybody to be either Batman or Daredevil, but I would like to see some consistencies during their fight sequences. Any who, tonight's episode reminded me why I watch this show every week. I enjoy spending Wednesdays with my favorite Emerald Archer and his family. I thought I didn't care who was in the grave, but I never read all those speculations; therefore this week's ending was incredibly sad.

Darhk made good on his promise to kill Laurel. You thought she was going to make it and then she didn't. She started out as some annoying love interest and then she became an essential part of the team. What she said last to Oliver was touching and deeply personal. I'm still wondering the reason of her sudden death? The doc said she was fine and the she died. Did Oliver do something to her and if so what? Do I want to her to be alive? (Depends)

This makes me wonder about DC's reason for killing her off? There are rumors that she'll appear in Justice League: Part One. I'm starting to think that they are true, due to her death in this episode. (I might be wrong, but we'll see)

I almost cried when I saw Detective Lance walking through the corridor. I should have known that she was going to die as soon as Lance testified against Darhk. I thought that Arrow needs the Black Canary and I was right -- they still need the Black Canary. We'll see how this unfolds and I haven't heard anything, but maybe a Mr. Constantine will be back. I still think she's going to be back no matter what, or they'll have her sister join the team again.

He's married to Tara Butters another writer on ABC
He's married to Tara Butters another writer on ABC

Marc Guggenheim sat down with ET and gave us this explanation:

"There's a variety of different story consequences that come from killing off Laurel that wouldn’t come from the death of any other character, so that's really what it came down to,"
"When we killed off Tommy at the end of season one, we did that not just for the effect that it had on Oliver, but the effect that it had on everybody -- particularly Laurel, which we thought would be really, really powerful," Guggenheim continued. "They'll see how the death of Laurel very specifically affects Diggle and it really draws Diggle's story forward for the remainder of the season. In addition, you'll see how it affects Lance, and you'll see how it affects Thea -- including a big decision that Thea will make at the end of the season."

The Arrow EP admitted that Amell and Cassidy have yet to actually film the conversation, but he’s open to having Cassidy return to "relive that moment."

"We would actually need Katie to come back to do a proper flashback, which would certainly and definitely be my preference," he added. "There's a big universe right now with time travel and parallel universes that now we always say in our world that dead is not goodbye."

You British bastard or Jim Gordon? Commish next
You British bastard or Jim Gordon? Commish next
Lance: "If were to kill off Lance, we'd basically be losing one of only two non-superheroes on the show who are regulars, with Felicity being the other one," he said. "Felicity is also member of Team Arrow, so [if we killed either of those characters] we'd be losing the one non-superhero or non-member of Team Arrow. Do we want to go forward without those tools in our tool-belt?"
Smolder away, smolder away
Smolder away, smolder away
Diggle: "Truth be told, if we were to have killed off Diggle, it would have had a massive effect on everybody, and it certainly would have had a huge effect on Oliver the most because this really started with Oliver and Diggle," Guggenheim stressed. "Diggle was on board with Oliver's crusade since episode four of season one and that's the relationship that goes back the longest as far as superheroes are concerned and this crusade of Oliver's… One of the things that we have to ask ourselves is: Is this particular death coming at the right time? And in the case of Diggle, it feels like we had a bit more story to tell with Diggle, and we weren’t prepared to trade away those stories."
I'm in love with a Thea!!
I'm in love with a Thea!!
Thea: "If you kill off Thea, that means Oliver Queen has lost his mother, his father, and now his sister and he has no family left," the EP explained. "Do we want to continue to tell a story where Oliver doesn’t have a family member? At some point, that may become a legitimate story choice, but her at the end of our fourth seasons, we weren't necessarily ready to go there."
I  might have a lil' man crush
I might have a lil' man crush
Oliver: "This show is about a lot of things, but one of the [biggest] things it's about is death. I'm not saying that every single character will end up dying before we see the end of this series, but death is a constant presence on this show," he said. "It's a long way of saying no one, except for the guy named The Arrow, is safe on the show and that the reaper doesn’t necessarily come at equal times."


You knew after John said to Oliver that's why Felicity left him -- Andy was a total dick. This doesn't surprise me at all that he helped Damien out. There was that thing with Malcolm that I must have missed, but yeah -- f*ck Andy Diggle (betraying your brother again).

Oh yeah, the flashbacks

That's her, I couldn't find another picture :)
That's her, I couldn't find another picture :)

Taiana Venediktov (Elysia Rotaru) is a woman that Oliver is on Lian Yu with in Season Four's flashbacks. During the episode they made a promise to visit one another's family if they shall perish in their activities. So, she's going to die fairly soon. She's Russian and that only means one thing. We're going to get a full year of Oliver joining the Bravta!

Now, Oliver already saved Anatoly Knyazev from Ivo and then saw him Russia. But you can't do another season on Lian Yu and how can Oliver visit Russia and not party with the Bravta? I need to brush up on my DC lore, but I'm sure they can connect the flashbacks with whatever theme they'll have next season. I want to see Oliver earn his keep in the Russian Mafia. I know, in Moscow's "Keep Your Enemies Closer", they talked and I can't remember what they said to one another about Oliver's future involvement with the Bravta. But I would bet it'll be Oliver doing horrible things for Bravta. Have they shown Oliver getting inked for being part of the Bravta yet?

On the right
On the right

This was a fulfilling episode tonight on Arrow. I really wish that during the fight scenes they would start playing some Gangster Rap. When Green Arrow is talking to someone forcefully -- they start play DMX's 'What's My Name'. You know when he's torturing someone, or even during a fight scene 'I'm not a nice person, I'll smack the sh*t outta ya twice dog and that's before I start cursin'! I think it would be a nice change of pace for the show.

UPDATED: Marc Guggenheim recently spoke at Writers Guild Festival and had these words to say:

“Part of the appeal of the flashbacks – certainly in the first two years, but I think the first three years – is seeing what a big difference it is, between Oliver Queen in the present day and Oliver Queen five years ago. The problem is that we are telling a five-year story in the flashbacks of Oliver becoming the guy you met in the pilot. So the deeper you get into the flashbacks, the closer he becomes to being that guy, and, thus, you lose that element of the flashbacks that was so interesting, which is how different he was…. That’s something we have struggled with this year.”

Wendy Mericle also had these words to say about Oliver's journey into becoming The Green Arrow:

“We know what we’re working up to. The season will be easier to break because we have an endpoint, and we work backwards from there.”
“I don’t want to tip too much, but it’s a very good possibility that we’ll finally find out how Oliver got that Bratva tattoo and how he learned to speak Russian.”

Goodbye Ms. Lance, I don't know how long your contract with the CW was for, but I already miss you. Even though I'm pretty sure you're going to be brought back either at the end of this season, or most definitely the next. That might be a problem -- Stephen Amell signed a 7-year contract with The CW. I'm sorry, you were amazing and annoying. I don't know how you became a ninja so quickly, but you did. Thank you for everything!

Source: ET & Screenrant

What do you think next year's flashbacks will be?


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